made amends for that now. >> richard, will we exhaust more dance partners? it's like a wave, i've been saying, going at different times from trump, to palin, to bachmann, to cain to perry, to newt, anybody? will it go to santorum or huntsman? >> from newt's experience you can have two times around so maybe rick perry -- >> i thought you were going to say three times around. >> you know, there is obviously a lot of volatility. there is an anti-establishment mood though, and i think that's part of why the dynamic is changing so quickly, so, you know, gingrich can hold on to this as long as he seems somewhat unconventional. as soon as he becomes the former house speaker, he's in trouble, and i think that's romney's problem, too. as long as he is trying to play the conventional route, go to the general election strategy, talk about obama, not anyone else, that's a problem. people want the fire in the belly, the volatility, the anti-washington mood, and romney's just looking too conventional. >> joe williams, listen to this.